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Hoon Seong's avatar

Evening Professor Hayhoe. I’m a Christian too, and I’m am so grateful that my faith underpins my own activism. I’m mostly in anti-deforestation (or afforestation as I prefer to call it) for Malaysia’s forests together with that of the indigenous peoples of Sarawak who www.cleanupthetropicaltimbertrade.org support. The Kayans, Kelabits, Kenyahs and Penans are so wonderful and are such faithful servants of God that I am put to shame. Their faith is what has maintained them through thick and through thin. Blessed be.

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The Carbon Fables's avatar

I really like the metaphor of the rock rolling down the hill - but especially the fact that the clean transition has millions of hands at work on it. It may take more pain / hurricanes / wake up calls, but winning more people - and more of these hands - over to the transition is the key work of the movement. While more rapid progress would be desirable, it's worth remembering how massive of a transition we need to meet this moment. If you want it to be democratic - and not some form of techno fascism - then we need to find the grace to meet people where they are and win them over.

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cliff Krolick's avatar

If we strictly focus on decarbonisation and not look at THE on the ground facts sitting in the Northern Hemisphere's Arctic regions we'll never slow down the rapid warming ocurring up there

Many scientists are aware and baffled why this region is heating 2-4 times faster than the remainder of this planet. There is no secret to why however because the scientific community seems to be working in silos " one hand doesn't know what the other is up to.

In the 1950s till early 1990s both Russia and Canada exploited the major water assets in the subarctic. Literally hundreds, many primary rivers, were impounded for months at a time behind mega/large hydroelectric dams. These waters from Siberia all the way to Labrador is the key fresh-water engine that helps maintain the delicate temperature balance required to maintain Arctic ocean sea ice and waters provide the seasonal energy required to keep the deep water longitudinal North South conveyor belt rolling. Impounding water all spring and summer and only generating the lions share of electricity in winter, this is Strict Flow Regulation and has altered the natural hydrological cycle of this region and is directly causing large amounts of heat entering the AtmosPhere and oceans. I'm working with a scientist in Italy that is modeling our research

you can follow us : hydrodamtruth.org or reach out to me directly here for all the ugly details

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Katharine Hayhoe's avatar

The statement "many scientists are aware and baffled why this region is heating 2-4 times faster" is false. Scientists have known about this since the 1890s and understand this so well that the causes are in every 101 textbook.

I strongly recommend updating your understanding with "The Thinking Person's Guide to Climate Change" and my Global Weirding series.

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John Gage's avatar

One of my favorite Outrage and Optimism podcast episodes is #200, "Lifelines and Deadlines - the Need for Science-Based Policy": https://www.outrageandoptimism.org/episodes/lifelines-vs-deadlines . My favorite part in it comes 60 minutes in, in which the moderators conclude, "It really is that simple. Just put a price on carbon."

It's time for everyone who is concerned about climate change to start repeating what economists have said for decades: we'll fail to adequately address climate change if we don't put a price on carbon.

I presented a 5-minute talk about who says it and why, what is the best way to price carbon (a cash-back carbon fee on fossil fuel production with accompanying CBAM) at a recent event: CPR Initiative - What More Should The US Do On Climate - https://bit.ly/carbon-price-gap-2024 (slides with references in notes available at https://bit.ly/carbon-price-gap-presentation).

One glimmer of hope in our current situation is this 8-minute video Elon Musk shared in February 2024 in which he reviews basic climate science, economics, and policy, and concludes that the solution is a cash-back carbon fee on fossil fuel production: “The only action needed to solve climate change is a carbon tax”... “It's economics 101” - https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1753837756793466975 .

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